ISLAMABAD - Kashmiri leadership rejected former foreign minister Khurshid Mahmood Kasuris claim on Kashmir solution while debating during round-table organised by the Centre for Research and Security Studies (CRSS) on The Near Agreement, What it was? here on Monday. Kashmiri participants while rejecting the Kasuris claim said the entire four-point plan on Kashmirs future lacked legitimacy. Barrister A Majeed Tramboo, Executive Director Kashmir Centre Brussels, said not a single prominent Kashmiri leader was taken on board. He said India and Pakistan primarily reduced it to a bilateral territorial dispute in the process. Tramboo demanded of ex-foreign minister Khurshid Ahmed Kasuri to disclose the names of Kashmiri leadership that was backing the track-II diplomacy with India. We challenge Kasuri to identify a single person from either part of Kashmir who was part of the discussions, Tramboo said. He also questioned the legitimacy of the four points that he said were indirectly conveyed to Kashmiris. I can assure the All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHCa) Geelani and Mirwaz groups were not involved in the dialogue. Neither they have confessed of their inclusion. None of the armed movement leader was taken into confidence. I am surprised which Kashmiri leaders were backing the dialogue, he added. No solution to the issue less than implementation of the UN resolutions on the Kashmir dispute or the right to self determination could be acceptable to the people of Jammu and Kashmir, said Tramboo adding that unless the Kashmiri leadership is active in the field and involved in the dialogue process, the issue could not be resolved. Replying to a question, he said that elections in Kashmir could never be part of any solution as they are conducted under the Indian control; however, if elections are held under international auspices, he added, the Kashmiri leadership could consider taking part in it. To another question Tramboo said, Kashmiri people were suppressed in the name of bilateral dialogue since 62 years. India has never been interested in solving the Kashmir issue. It dragged, delayed and prolonged the issues in the name of different dialogs. Model of Irish dispute solution may not be replicated for Jammu and Kashmir dispute. They dynamics and parameters were different about both if we compared. Prof Nazir Ahmed Shaal, ED Kahmir Centre London said that India and Pakistan have considered the Jammu and Kashmir as real state issue. Since 60 years we havent seen any growth in the dialogue between India and Pakistan. Line of Control is Berlin wall for the people of Kashmir. He demanded the concrete evidence of track-II diplomacy with India. He reiterated that Right of self- determination is non-negotiable. While describing the phrase 'Kashmir was close to agreement as figment, Prof Nazir Ahmed Shaal, said that there was no evidence available to the Kashmiri leadership that suggested that the Kashmir issue was about to be resolved during the Musharraf era. He rather declared that the issue could not be resolved without involving the Kashmiri people. The people who revolted against the Indian intransigence must be brought to the dialogue table if the two countries are serious to resolve the issue, he maintained. Speaking for the right to self-determination for the Kashmiris, he said that self-determination is non-negotiable. Referring to Khurshid Kasuris formula on Kashmir, Ghulam Muhammad Safi, Convener APHC-Gilani, said that all the international experts had been gathered at the Convention Centre during the Musharraf regime for consensus over the formula. The then participants rejected the formula and termed it impracticable. He questioned that why international community do not ask India to come out of fantasy of integral part and agree upon out of box solutions Syed Faiz Naqashbandi who represented APHC-Mirwaiz said that it has been realised by the international community that peace in Sourth Asia was linked with Kashmir issue. He said the UN resolutions provide the way out to the problem. Noor-ul Bari, Deputy Chief of Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, demanded the policy change regarding Kashmir issue. He said Musharraf had done bad job in this regard. Concluding the debate Imtiaz Gul, organiser of round-table said, all the Kashmiri participants showed mistrust over confidence building measures (CBMs) and track II diplomacy initiated during Musharraf regime. It may be mentioned here that AJK Prime Minister Raja Farooq Haider cancelled his participation in the moot at the eleventh hour.