KABUL (Reuters) Efforts by Afghanistan to woo Taliban fighters from the battlefield wont succeed while insurgent leaders have sanctuary in neighbouring Pakistan, the man in charge of the process said. Fighters who renounce violence and pledge allegiance to the government will merely be recycled back into the insurgency as long as the leadership remains intact, said Mohammad Masoom Stanekzai in an interview with Reuters. The reintegration of Taliban foot soldiers is one of the main themes of a major international conference in Kabul next week, when Afghanistan will ask donors for more control of a $13 billion international aid kitty, part of which they want to use to persuade fighters to lay down their arms. Stanekzai, one of Afghan President Hamid Karzais closest advisors, said there were about 20,000 to 30,000 active insurgents faced-off against around 150,000 foreign troops and roughly twice that number of government troops and police. Some fighters and commanders had already shown willingness to cross over to the government side since a national peace conference last month endorsed Karzais plan to win them over, Stanekzai said, but he warned the process needed to tackle the issue of leadership - and that needed Pakistans help. As long as there are sanctuaries for the leadership of the Taliban that enables them to recruit people, access resources and send them back, (then) any number of people you integrate will be recycled, Stanekzai said. The final draft on the reintegration plan will be delivered at the Kabul conference. It is a three-stage process which includes social outreach, demobilisation of those who come over and finding them short- and long-term jobs, Stanekzai said. The government and foreign troops needed to address three key points to persuade the militants to stop fighting, he said. Are we able to provide them security? Are we and the international community coordinating (to make sure) that they are not arrested? And can we offer opportunity to give them a better life? Unlike past programmes, fighters joining up will not receive cash incentives but rewards will go instead to the community in the shape of social and development projects, he said. The push for reintegration comes as Afghanistan faces its deadliest phase of violence since the ousting of the Taliban in 2001 and amid plans by the United States and other ISAF members to start a gradual withdrawal from next year. Stanekzai said while reconciliation without the Taliban leadership would be difficult, the government would reach out to more senior members after the formation of a high peace council expected in coming weeks. In the aftermath of their ousting, many Taliban fighters and their leaders fled to Pakistan where the hardline movement was born in Afghan refugee camps and religious schools that sprouted during the decade-long Soviet occupation. Stanekzai said Pakistan needed to put aside past policies, adding Karzai had been trying hard to convince Pakistani leaders that Afghanistan would not allow itself to be used as frontline for a proxy war. Kabul complains that Pakistan has been vigorously tackling its own home-grown Taliban insurgency while ignoring the Afghan leaders hiding in their midst, although Stanekzai said there were some glimmers of hope - some in Pakistan were starting to realise that both nations needed to cooperate to fight militancy. This problem is getting out of control in Pakistan. There is a lot of suicide bombings and insecurity there that can spread to other countries, Stanekzai said. If Afghanistan is secure, then the region is secure and the rest of the world will be more secure.